Holland LP variants: Born In The U.S.A.

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Holland LP variants: Born In The U.S.A.

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(List updated on 20 Dec 2021)

As far as I know, there are at least 6 versions of the Holland vinyl pressing of Born In The U.S.A.
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Version 1:
- Catalog no. CBS 86304
- CBS regular sleeve
- CBS sunburst labels, with asterisk
- Track list centered on labels
My copy | Dicogs

Version 2:
- Catalog no. CBS 86304
- CBS regular sleeve
- CBS red labels, with asterisk
- Track list centered on labels
(same sleeve as version 1)
My copy | Dicogs

Version 3:
- Catalog no. CBSCL 32 308-9
- CBS club edition sleeve
- CBS red labels, with asterisk
- Track list centered on labels
(same labels as version 2)
My copy | Discogs

Version 4:
- Catalog no. CBSCL 426700
- CBS club edition sleeve
- CBS red labels, with asterisk
- Track list centered on labels
(same labels as version 2)
My copy | Discogs

Version 5:
- Catalog no. CBS 86304
- Vivitar promo sleeve
- CBS red labels, with asterisk
- Track list centered on labels
(same labels as version 2)
My copy | Discogs

Version 6:
- Catalog no. COL 86304
- Columbia sleeve with barcode
- Columbia red labels, no asterisk
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
Discogs


Hype stickers:

Some copies of version 1 come with a red with black and white text hype sticker announcing the new album and promoting its first single.
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Some copies of version 1 come with a red with white text hype sticker announcing the new album and promoting its first single.
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Some copies of version 2 come with a red and white hype sticker promoting four singles from the album.
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Some copies of version 2 come with a pink and white hype sticker promoting four singles from the album.
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Some copies of version 2 come with a pink and white hype sticker promoting four singles from the album plus a "Hit Wave 85" hype sticker.
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Inserts and inner sleeves:

All version include a two-sided lyrics insert.
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All version include a printed inner sleeve.
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Some copies of version 1 and version 2 additionally include a 7-album discography.
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Notes:
- Version 3 and version 4 (the two club editions) were apparently released by Bertelsmann Club in Germany.
- Version 5 (with Vivitar promo sleeve) was released in Germany.
- There are mispressed copies with side 2 CBS red label on both sides.
- There's a mispressing of version 2 on Discogs where side B play side B of The Clash's Cut The Crap album.
- Please have a look at your copies and tell me if you have one that's any different from the ones I listed.
- A copy of version 1 on Discogs seem to include an inner sleeve that has a different opening on top and different text on the lower left corner. I need better resolution images to better inspect it.
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I've no further information to add except that I've also the 2007 Columbia / Sony / BMG release: https://www.discogs.com/Bruce-Springste ... se/1282326
But I'm not sure if this one counts for your list because it's made in the EU.
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schrefel wrote:I've no further information to add except that I've also the 2007 Columbia / Sony / BMG release: https://www.discogs.com/Bruce-Springste ... se/1282326
But I'm not sure if this one counts for your list because it's made in the EU.
I completely forgot about it! I'll buy a copy immediately. Thank you!
I will be seeking a sealed copy, but do you know if they were originally with a sticker on the shrink?

Aside, do you know anything about this issue? ...like when it was released.
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Mine is not sealed so I don't know if there was a sticker. As far as I know it was released in 2007.
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schrefel wrote:Mine is not sealed so I don't know if there was a sticker. As far as I know it was released in 2007.
I recently received a copy I bought: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collec ... ?item=7669
I will not include it in this list since it's not "made in Holland", but thank you for the tip.
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I don’t know if anyone could tell me something about this record.
I’ve heard from it not long ago. This record curiously has written “Made in Spain” around the outer edge of the label and the matrix number is Spanish too, but the cover and labels are Dutch.
Nothing in the sleeve says that it was made in Spain or distributed for the Spanish market. In fact it is one of the covers use in Holland for its records.
The type of label is also used by Holland for the edition of its records. Spain has never used this type of label. Spanish label of that time has always written “SGAE” on it. (Sociedad General de Autores y Editores)- General Society of Authors and Publishers- .
In addition Spain edited several different variants of this album with its own type of label: white, sunburnt and red.

Were the cover and label made in Holland and then send to Spain for pressing? . Was that usually done?

Is this album Spanish or Dutch?.

Can it be added on this list as a Dutch record or not?
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cgfesp wrote:I don’t know if anyone could tell me something about this record.
I’ve heard from it not long ago. This record curiously has written “Made in Spain” around the outer edge of the label and the matrix number is Spanish too, but the cover and labels are Dutch.
Nothing in the sleeve says that it was made in Spain or distributed for the Spanish market. In fact it is one of the covers use in Holland for its records.
The type of label is also used by Holland for the edition of its records. Spain has never used this type of label. Spanish label of that time has always written “SGAE” on it. (Sociedad General de Autores y Editores)- General Society of Authors and Publishers- .
In addition Spain edited several different variants of this album with its own type of label: white, sunburnt and red.

Were the cover and label made in Holland and then send to Spain for pressing? . Was that usually done?

Is this album Spanish or Dutch?.

Can it be added on this list as a Dutch record or not?
I have such copy and I always thought that it was made in Holland for export to Spain. Born In The U.S.A. was a huge seller and maybe the pressing plant in Spain couldn't meet the demands.

Anyway, I consider it a Spanish release since it has "Made in Spain" on the labels. See this post: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/forum/ ... p?f=7&t=57
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I dissagree Eddy. CBS record plant in Spain was at one time one of largest CBS plants in Europe. CBS Spain manufactured a lot of different Bob Dylan records for export to Holland (and even to Portugal). I think that's really more correct to consider this record as a Holland issue with the record manufactured in Spain.

Note that even the record is manufactured in Spain, the copyright collect company is the holland company, not the Spanish (SGAE).

This variant is more easy to find in Germany, France or Holland than in Spain.
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Domingo wrote:I dissagree Eddy. CBS record plant in Spain was at one time one of largest CBS plants in Europe. CBS Spain manufactured a lot of different Bob Dylan records for export to Holland (and even to Portugal). I think that's really more correct to consider this record as a Holland issue with the record manufactured in Spain.

Note that even the record is manufactured in Spain, the copyright collect company is the holland company, not the Spanish (SGAE).

This variant is more easy to find in Germany, France or Holland than in Spain.
Thank you for the information. That's interesting. I bought all my three Spanish pressings, including this one, from a record store in Barcelona back in 2008. I had no idea that it was exported to Europe!

I updated the related thread accordingly.
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Is It possible to include in this list the German club edition?
I think that It was edited for German market but I'm not sure. The record and cover are Ducht, but It has another club edition number (CBSCL 42 670 0).
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cgfesp wrote:Is It possible to include in this list the German club edition?
I think that It was edited for German market but I'm not sure. The record and cover are Ducht, but It has another club edition number (CBSCL 42 670 0).
I was not aware of this version. I updated the post accordingly. Thank you.
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