Spain LP variants: Born In The U.S.A.

[eddy_wehbe]

As far as I know, there are at least 7 versions (1 promo and 6 commercial) of the Spain vinyl pressing of Born In The U.S.A.

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Promo version:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / Madrid-16"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- CBS white labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Discos CBS S.A. - Madrid"
- Track 3 not misspelled on label
My copy
Cgfesp's copy
Pamphlet from Domingo's copy
Discogs

Commercial version 1:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / Madrid-16"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20" or "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20" and "Made in Spain"
- CBS sunburst labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Discos CBS S.A. - Madrid"
- Track 3 misspelled "Darlington Country" on label
(same sleeve as promo version)
My copy

Commercial version 2:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / Madrid-16"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20" or "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20" and "Made in Spain"
- CBS sunburst labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Discos CBS S.A. - Madrid"
- Track 3 not misspelled on label
(same sleeve as promo version)
Cgfesp's copy

Commercial version 3:
- Back sleeve has "...Made in Holland..." (same as Holland pressings)
- Lyrics insert has no reference to Spain (same as Holland pressings)
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid" and "Made in Spain"
- CBS sunburst labels (Holland design)
- Labels have "...Made in Spain"
- Track 3 not misspelled on label
My copy

Commercial version 4:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / 28046 - Madrid"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A./ San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid"
- "(SP)" added to catalog number on back cover
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid"
- CBS red labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Discos CBS S.A. - Madrid"
- Track 3 misspelled "Darlington Country" on label
My copy
Discogs

Commercial version 5:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / 28046 - Madrid"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A./ San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid"
- "(SP)" added to catalog number on back cover
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "???"
- CBS red labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Tecnodisco, S.A. - Madrid"
- Track 3 misspelled "Darlington Country" on label
(same sleeve as commercial version 4)
Discogs

Commercial version 6:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / 28046 - Madrid"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A./ San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid"
- "(SP)" added to catalog number on back cover
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid"
- CBS/Sony red labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Tecnodisco, S.A. Madrid Telefono 643 42 55"
- Track 3 misspelled "Darlington Country" on label
(same sleeve as commercial version 4)
Discogs


Notes:

- Please have a look at your copies and tell me if you have one that's any different from the ones I listed.

- I need confirmation of all what is marked in red above. Please compare with your copies.

- The promo version (white label) was distributed with a promo pamphlet (see pamphlet from Domingo's copy).

- Based on two copies, including one bought around the release date, the inner picture bag for commercial version 1 has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20". However a third copy has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20" and "Made in Spain". Whether this inner bag has been replaced or such combination did exist remains to be confirmed. More copies need to be examined.

- Commercial copies with a promo stamp also exist. I've seen so far a promo stamped copy of commercial version 1.

- Commercial version 3 was made in Spain for export to the rest of Europe.

- As far as we've seen, commercial version 3 comes with at least three types of hype stickers: the one in the main post, and the two that Domingo posted.

- CBS in Spain pressed their own records but outsourced printing of covers.

- Tecnodisco was an independent record manufacturing company founded in 1988. In the late 80's CBS Spain closed its pressing plant and started outsourcing record manufacturing.

[cgfesp]

Promo version Spanish Born In the USA: Cover

[cgfesp]

Labels

[cgfesp]

Detail back cover

[cgfesp]

Information from my copies.
Promo version
Back cover: Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / Madrid – 16
Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20
Inner bag : Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20
Lyric insert: Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20

Version 1: (same as the promo version)
Back cover: Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / Madrid – 16
Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20
Inner bag : Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20
Lyric insert: Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20

Version2:
Dutch cover:
Inner bag: Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid – Made in Spain
Lyric insert: (The same as in the Dutch copies)
All words and music by Bruce Springsteen
All songs 1984 Bruce Springsteen (ASCAP)
All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission

Version 4: Red Label “Fabricado por Tecnodisco S.A.”
Back cover: Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / 28046 – Madrid
Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid
Inner bag : I can’t confirm it (my copy doesn’t have inner bag)
Lyric insert: Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20

The versions three, four and five added (“SP”) on back cover instead of (“SG”).
Curiously on the inner bag of version two is written “Made in Spain”.

[eddy_wehbe]

Information from my copies.

Thank you for sharing the white label promo scans and for the correction. I updated the above list accordingly.

I will but version 4 and version 5 when they appear on eBay and then fill the missing information.

Curiously, my copy and your copy of version 1 have different inner bags. Mine has an additional "Made In Spain" to the text. We will know which one is correct when we can compare with more copies of the same version.

[cgfesp]

I checked it again and my copy of commercial 1 version has not "Made in Spain" on the inner bag.
"Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid 20".
In my copies "Made in Spain" only appears in the export issue.
We will need more copies to know which one is correct. Maybe two are correct

[Domingo]

Next weekend I’ll try to check my copies, but some questions before:

- Promo white label copies were distribuited with a promo panflet

- Stock copies with a promo stamp also exists.

- when it comes to spanish releases you got to take in head that cbs got a manufacturing record plant but not printing facilities, that were outsourced.

A lot of times the numbers didn’t match, so you can find weird combinations of records, slevees and inners (a late 80’s release with early 80’s inners etc.)

[cgfesp]

Next weekend I’ll try to check my copies, but some questions before:

- Promo white label copies were distribuited with a promo panflet

- Stock copies with a promo stamp also exists.

- when it comes to spanish releases you got to take in head that cbs got a manufacturing record plant but not printing facilities, that were outsourced.

A lot of times the numbers didn’t match, so you can find weird combinations of records, slevees and inners (a late 80’s release with early 80’s inners etc.)

Versions 5 and 6 have written “Fabricado en España por Tecnodisco S.A” around the outer edge of the label.
What does it mean? Was it a outsourced company?
What date were they made in Spain by this company from?

[Domingo]

Yes, Tecnodisco was an independent record manufacturing company. In late 80’s CBS Spain closed his manufacturing facility and started outsource the record manufacturing.

Tecnodisco was founded in 1988.

The last Bruce record manufactured by CBS was Tunel of Love. The latest Bruce spanish releases weren’t manufactured by Tecnodisco but in Holland.

[cgfesp]

Yes, Tecnodisco was an independent record manufacturing company. In late 80’s CBS Spain closed his manufacturing facility and started outsource the record manufacturing.

Tecnodisco was founded in 1988.

The last Bruce record manufactured by CBS was Tunel of Love. The latest Bruce spanish releases weren’t manufactured by Tecnodisco but in Holland.

Thank you Domingo for the information. It's very interesting

[Domingo]

A pic of the booklet included with promo copies and a pic of a gold stamped bacl sleeve stock copy for promo purposes.

Please note that all the promo withe label copies I have seen came with regular stock sleeves without promo stamp.

[Domingo]

Commercial version 1:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / Madrid-16"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
or "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20" and "Made in Spain" ?
- CBS sunburst labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Discos CBS S.A. - Madrid"
- Track 3 misspelled "Darlington Country" on label
(same sleeve as promo version)

My copy, bought in Spain the release day or so, don't have "Made in Spain" in the inner bag

[Domingo]

Commercial version 3:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / 28046 - Madrid"
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A./ San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid"
- "(SP)" added to catalog number on back cover
- Lyrics insert has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20"
- Inner picture bag has "Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid" (need to confirm)
- CBS red labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Discos CBS S.A. - Madrid"
- Track 3 misspelled "Darlington Country" on label
My copy


Match with my copy

[Domingo]

Commercial version 5:
- Back sleeve has "Discos CBS, S.A. / Paseo de la Castellana, 93 / 28046 - Madrid" (need to confirm)
- Back sleeve has "Offset ALG, S.A./ San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid" (need to confirm)
- "(SP)" added to catalog number on back cover
- Lyrics insert has "???"
- Inner picture bag has "???"
- CBS/Sony red labels
- Labels have "Fabricado en España por Tecnodisco, S.A. Madrid Telefono 643 42 55"
- Track 3 misspelled "Darlington Country" on label
(same sleeve as commercial version 3)
A copy on Discogs

I have two copies of this one. Most likely I did a mistake as my copy of version 4 is incomplete (missing all inners), I will have to hunt one...

Back sleeve conirmed.
Lyrics: Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / Madrid-20
Inner picture bag: Offset ALG, S.A. / San Raimundo, 31 / 28039 - Madrid

[Domingo]

For the holland/spain release I have two copies, with different stickers on the front.

[eddy_wehbe]

Thank you Domingo for all the information and photos. I updated the original post accordingly, most notably the "Notes" section.

I have a few questions.

1) Can you please confirm that the promo-stamped copy that you have is of commercial version 1?

2) Tecnodisco was founded in 1988. Did the CBS plant in Spain close down that same year? Or was it later?

3) When did CBS Spain switch from CBS to CBS/SONY? I remember it was sometime between 1989 and 1991.

[Domingo]

Thank you Domingo for all the information and photos. I updated the original post accordingly, most notably the "Notes" section.

I have a few questions.

1) Can you please confirm that the promo-stamped copy that you have is of commercial version 1?

Yes, it’s the first release

2) Tecnodisco was founded in 1988. Did the CBS plant in Spain close down that same year? Or was it later?

No idea, but most lakely later as TOL copies In second hand market are mainly manufactured by CBS

3) When did CBS Spain switch from CBS to CBS/SONY? I remember it was sometime between 1989 and 1991.

Some debate here. Some says 1991, some says 1992. General consensus they stop release vinyl in 1994

[eddy_wehbe]

1) Can you please confirm that the promo-stamped copy that you have is of commercial version 1?

Yes, it’s the first release.

And here are some photos I got from eBay. I'm posting them here for record purposes.

[eddy_wehbe]

I received a copy of the white label promo, main post updated.

[professorroybittan]

got commercial version 1 not mispelled DARLINGTON COUNTY

[eddy_wehbe]

got commercial version 1 not mispelled DARLINGTON COUNTY

Interesting. Could you post scans or photos so that I update the original post accordingly?

[cgfesp]

Hi everyone.
I have a new version with the error corrected.

[cgfesp]

Same sleeve as commercial version . If you need better pictures let me know.

[cgfesp]

It?s curios but in this picture we can see that there is a small change in font in "COUNTY 4,48" ".

[eddy_wehbe]

Hi everyone.
I have a new version with the error corrected.

Great find! I updated the orignal post accordingly.

Same sleeve as commercial version . If you need better pictures let me know.

If yhou still have the higher resolution photos (like that of side 2) on you PC, please post them and I'll use them in the main post image. If you don't have them, don't bother taking new ones. No big deal.

It?s curios but in this picture we can see that there is a small change in font in "COUNTY 4,48" ".

Photo editing looong before there was Photoshop

[cgfesp]

New pictures

[eddy_wehbe]

New pictures

I replaced the images of your version in the original post to the higher resolution ones. Sorry for doing it so late.