Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
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Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
As far as I know, there are at least 6 versions of the Holland vinyl pressing of Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J..
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Version 1:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Orange labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
My copy
Version 2:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1)
My copy
Version 3:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 271" on front sleeve
- Price code "57" on front sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same labels as version 2)
Discogs
Version 4:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 211" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
My copy
Version 5:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 231" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
(same labels as version 4)
My copy
Version 6:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 231" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Red labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
(same sleeve as version 4)
My copy
Versions I suspect exist:
- Red labels, with track list aligned to the left
- Sunburst labels, with track list centered, without asterisk
- Different variants of the sleeve, possibly one with distribution code and price code, but no label code
Variants:
Version 2, with distribution code and price code sticker:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- Distribution code and price code sticker on front sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1, with additional sticker)
(same labels as version 2)*
My copy
* This is definitely not the sleeve of version 3. I peeled the sticker a bit (without causing any damage) and verified that there is nothing printed under the sticker.
Version 2, with price code sticker:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- Price code sticker on back sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1, with additional sticker)
(same labels as version 2)
Discogs
(save the image or open it in a new tab to zoom in)
Version 1:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Orange labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
My copy
Version 2:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1)
My copy
Version 3:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 271" on front sleeve
- Price code "57" on front sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same labels as version 2)
Discogs
Version 4:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 211" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
My copy
Version 5:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 231" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
(same labels as version 4)
My copy
Version 6:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 231" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Red labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
(same sleeve as version 4)
My copy
Versions I suspect exist:
- Red labels, with track list aligned to the left
- Sunburst labels, with track list centered, without asterisk
- Different variants of the sleeve, possibly one with distribution code and price code, but no label code
Variants:
Version 2, with distribution code and price code sticker:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- Distribution code and price code sticker on front sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1, with additional sticker)
(same labels as version 2)*
My copy
* This is definitely not the sleeve of version 3. I peeled the sticker a bit (without causing any damage) and verified that there is nothing printed under the sticker.
Version 2, with price code sticker:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- Price code sticker on back sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1, with additional sticker)
(same labels as version 2)
Discogs
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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
I know that CBS records transitioned from the orange label to the sunburst label sometime in the mid-seventies, and then from the sunburst label to red label around mid-1985.
I think the transition from the orange label to the sunburst label did not happen everywhere at the same time... in Oceana, in Holland, in the UK...
1) Does anybody know exactly when the transition happened?
2) Does anybody know if "The Wild" (and maybe "Born To Run" too) was released in Holland on orange labels
As far as I know, these albums were issued on orange labels:
Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
- UK
- Holland
- Australia
The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
- UK
- Australia
Born To Run
- Australia
- New Zealand
- South Africa
I think the transition from the orange label to the sunburst label did not happen everywhere at the same time... in Oceana, in Holland, in the UK...
1) Does anybody know exactly when the transition happened?
2) Does anybody know if "The Wild" (and maybe "Born To Run" too) was released in Holland on orange labels
As far as I know, these albums were issued on orange labels:
Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
- UK
- Holland
- Australia
The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
- UK
- Australia
Born To Run
- Australia
- New Zealand
- South Africa
Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
Wow - it exists with orange labels. I heard only rumours about it but never saw it. Heard the same rumours also about Wild & Innocent but that source also told me that BTR was released only with sunburst labels.
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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
I got my copy last week at a record store in Lausanne. It was a good find. If I find another one I'll sure get it.
Logically an orange-label pressing of The Wild must exist. But I would like to confirm that. If you ever see a copy, physically or online, please post here.
As for Born To Run... accordion to this Discogs discussion, "The orange center label used until around 1976." But I think that's inaccurate. It may apply to Oceania and South Africa, but not to Europe.
In the UK, CBS Records switched from Orange labels to Sunburst labels gradually between early 1974 and mid 1975. They first switched the labels for the singles and then later they switched the labels for the albums. I concluded that based on what I read on these two pages:
- http://www.searchingforagem.com/1960s/C ... Labels.htm
- http://www.cvinyl.com/labelguides/cbs.php
I tend to believe that CBS Records in Holland switched from Orange labels to Sunburst labels around the same time as in the UK. So there is a very low chance, in my opinion, that initial Dutch pressings of Born To Run had orange labels.
Logically an orange-label pressing of The Wild must exist. But I would like to confirm that. If you ever see a copy, physically or online, please post here.
As for Born To Run... accordion to this Discogs discussion, "The orange center label used until around 1976." But I think that's inaccurate. It may apply to Oceania and South Africa, but not to Europe.
In the UK, CBS Records switched from Orange labels to Sunburst labels gradually between early 1974 and mid 1975. They first switched the labels for the singles and then later they switched the labels for the albums. I concluded that based on what I read on these two pages:
- http://www.searchingforagem.com/1960s/C ... Labels.htm
- http://www.cvinyl.com/labelguides/cbs.php
I tend to believe that CBS Records in Holland switched from Orange labels to Sunburst labels around the same time as in the UK. So there is a very low chance, in my opinion, that initial Dutch pressings of Born To Run had orange labels.
Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
But Wild always had a 1975 imprint on the Holland pressings. Maybe because of poor sales of Greetings and with the BTR hype it got released too. But that is only speculation.
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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
Actually that's not true. I know of four label versions for the Dutch pressing of The Wild. It's strange, but the earlier two designs have 1975 and the later two designs have 1973!
As for Greetings, they all have 1975, except for the early orange label, which has 1973. It's a mess. I can't conclude any rule from these 1973/1975 imprints.
Anyway, I will soon create a "Holland LP variants: The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle" thread so that we catalog the different pressings.
As for Greetings, they all have 1975, except for the early orange label, which has 1973. It's a mess. I can't conclude any rule from these 1973/1975 imprints.
Anyway, I will soon create a "Holland LP variants: The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle" thread so that we catalog the different pressings.
Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
Typo in your first post:
(same sleeve a version 1) => (same sleeve as version 1)
Your version 1 copy really look like the labels are red.
(same sleeve a version 1) => (same sleeve as version 1)
Your version 1 copy really look like the labels are red.
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Typo corrected.vzell wrote:Typo in your first post:
(same sleeve a version 1) => (same sleeve as version 1)
Your version 1 copy really look like the labels are red.
Those labels vary from orange to very dark orange, depending on the printing.
Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
There seem to be 2 more versions available see below listing:
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https://www.discogs.com/release/5272818 and scan at
''Version 2a:'' - white round 57 sticker on rear sleeve and plain white inner sleeve
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Price code "57" sticker on rear sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1)
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https://www.discogs.com/Bruce-Springste ... se/8126726 and scan at
''Version 6:'' - distribution and price code printing in the upper right corner on sleeve
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 271" on sleeve
- Price code "57" on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
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https://www.discogs.com/release/5272818 and scan at
''Version 2a:'' - white round 57 sticker on rear sleeve and plain white inner sleeve
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Price code "57" sticker on rear sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1)
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https://www.discogs.com/Bruce-Springste ... se/8126726 and scan at
''Version 6:'' - distribution and price code printing in the upper right corner on sleeve
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 271" on sleeve
- Price code "57" on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
Thank you Volker. I added those two versions. Let me know if I made any mistakes.
...now it's time to hunt down version 3 and version 4.
...now it's time to hunt down version 3 and version 4.
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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
I ordered another version with price sticker. I will post complete info when I receive it.
I guess it will be better not to list these (officially) snickered copies as separate versions, but as variants of certain versions. I will modify the first post and remove the other stickered version and list separately as a side note.
I guess it will be better not to list these (officially) snickered copies as separate versions, but as variants of certain versions. I will modify the first post and remove the other stickered version and list separately as a side note.
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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
HI EVERYONE
YES. IT EXISTS ONE HOLLAND VERSION OF "THE WILD,THE INNOCENT..." WITH ORANGE LABELS. I HAVE GOT A COPY.
THE CATALOGUE NUMBER IS "S 65780 (KC 32432)""AND THE LABEL IS SIMILAR TO THE "GREETINGS" ONE.
AT THE BOTTON OF THE BACK COVER IS WRITTEN "SHOREPAK BY SHOREWOOD PACKAGING/PRINTED IN HOLLAND.
ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER THE CBS LOGO IS INSIDE A RECTANGLE WITH THE CATALOGUE NUMER "65780" BELOW. OUT OF THE RECTANGLE, AT THE BOTTON, THERE IS A CODE: "B" INSIDE A CIRCLE.
YES. IT EXISTS ONE HOLLAND VERSION OF "THE WILD,THE INNOCENT..." WITH ORANGE LABELS. I HAVE GOT A COPY.
THE CATALOGUE NUMBER IS "S 65780 (KC 32432)""AND THE LABEL IS SIMILAR TO THE "GREETINGS" ONE.
AT THE BOTTON OF THE BACK COVER IS WRITTEN "SHOREPAK BY SHOREWOOD PACKAGING/PRINTED IN HOLLAND.
ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER THE CBS LOGO IS INSIDE A RECTANGLE WITH THE CATALOGUE NUMER "65780" BELOW. OUT OF THE RECTANGLE, AT THE BOTTON, THERE IS A CODE: "B" INSIDE A CIRCLE.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. Can you post the same info here: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/forum/ ... p?f=7&t=55cgfesp wrote:HI EVERYONE
YES. IT EXISTS ONE HOLLAND VERSION OF "THE WILD,THE INNOCENT..." WITH ORANGE LABELS. I HAVE GOT A COPY.
THE CATALOGUE NUMBER IS "S 65780 (KC 32432)""AND THE LABEL IS SIMILAR TO THE "GREETINGS" ONE.
AT THE BOTTON OF THE BACK COVER IS WRITTEN "SHOREPAK BY SHOREWOOD PACKAGING/PRINTED IN HOLLAND.
ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER THE CBS LOGO IS INSIDE A RECTANGLE WITH THE CATALOGUE NUMER "65780" BELOW. OUT OF THE RECTANGLE, AT THE BOTTON, THERE IS A CODE: "B" INSIDE A CIRCLE.
And if possible, please also post photos.
Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
There is a Israel variant with orange labels too.eddy_wehbe wrote:I know that CBS records transitioned from the orange label to the sunburst label sometime in the mid-seventies, and then from the sunburst label to red label around mid-1985.
I think the transition from the orange label to the sunburst label did not happen everywhere at the same time... in Oceana, in Holland, in the UK...
1) Does anybody know exactly when the transition happened?
2) Does anybody know if "The Wild" (and maybe "Born To Run" too) was released in Holland on orange labels
As far as I know, these albums were issued on orange labels:
Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
- UK
- Holland
- Australia
The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
- UK
- Australia
Born To Run
- Australia
- New Zealand
- South Africa
But I don't know if Greetings and Wild were edited with this color of label.
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You are right. I have photos of that issue on my computer. So here's an updated summary:cgfesp wrote:There is a Israel variant with orange labels too.
But I don't know if Greetings and Wild were edited with this color of label.
Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
- Australia
- UK
- Holland
The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
- Australia
- UK
- Holland
Born To Run
- Australia
- Israel
- New Zealand
- South Africa
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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
This week I received a copy of version 2 with distribution code and price code sticker. Main post updated.