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Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:34 am
by eddy_wehbe
As far as I know, there are at least 6 versions of the Holland vinyl pressing of Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J..
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Version 1:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Orange labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
My copy

Version 2:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1)
My copy

Version 3:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 271" on front sleeve
- Price code "57" on front sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same labels as version 2)
Discogs

Version 4:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 211" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
My copy

Version 5:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 231" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
(same labels as version 4)
My copy

Version 6:
- Catalog number CBS 32210
- Regular sleeve with lyrics inner sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 231" on back sleeve
- Price code "53" on back sleeve
- Label code "LC 0149" on back sleeve
- Red labels
- Asterisk on labels
- Track list centered on labels
(same sleeve as version 4)
My copy


Versions I suspect exist:
- Red labels, with track list aligned to the left
- Sunburst labels, with track list centered, without asterisk
- Different variants of the sleeve, possibly one with distribution code and price code, but no label code

Variants:

Version 2, with distribution code and price code sticker:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- Distribution code and price code sticker on front sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1, with additional sticker)
(same labels as version 2)*
My copy
* This is definitely not the sleeve of version 3. I peeled the sticker a bit (without causing any damage) and verified that there is nothing printed under the sticker.
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Version 2, with price code sticker:
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- No distribution code on sleeve
- Price code sticker on back sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1, with additional sticker)
(same labels as version 2)
Discogs

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Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:37 am
by eddy_wehbe
I know that CBS records transitioned from the orange label to the sunburst label sometime in the mid-seventies, and then from the sunburst label to red label around mid-1985.

I think the transition from the orange label to the sunburst label did not happen everywhere at the same time... in Oceana, in Holland, in the UK...

1) Does anybody know exactly when the transition happened?
2) Does anybody know if "The Wild" (and maybe "Born To Run" too) was released in Holland on orange labels

As far as I know, these albums were issued on orange labels:

Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
- UK
- Holland
- Australia

The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
- UK
- Australia

Born To Run
- Australia
- New Zealand
- South Africa

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:40 pm
by schrefel
Wow - it exists with orange labels. I heard only rumours about it but never saw it. Heard the same rumours also about Wild & Innocent but that source also told me that BTR was released only with sunburst labels.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:26 pm
by eddy_wehbe
I got my copy last week at a record store in Lausanne. It was a good find. If I find another one I'll sure get it.

Logically an orange-label pressing of The Wild must exist. But I would like to confirm that. If you ever see a copy, physically or online, please post here.

As for Born To Run... accordion to this Discogs discussion, "The orange center label used until around 1976." But I think that's inaccurate. It may apply to Oceania and South Africa, but not to Europe.

In the UK, CBS Records switched from Orange labels to Sunburst labels gradually between early 1974 and mid 1975. They first switched the labels for the singles and then later they switched the labels for the albums. I concluded that based on what I read on these two pages:
- http://www.searchingforagem.com/1960s/C ... Labels.htm
- http://www.cvinyl.com/labelguides/cbs.php

I tend to believe that CBS Records in Holland switched from Orange labels to Sunburst labels around the same time as in the UK. So there is a very low chance, in my opinion, that initial Dutch pressings of Born To Run had orange labels.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:52 am
by schrefel
But Wild always had a 1975 imprint on the Holland pressings. Maybe because of poor sales of Greetings and with the BTR hype it got released too. But that is only speculation.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:28 pm
by eddy_wehbe
Actually that's not true. I know of four label versions for the Dutch pressing of The Wild. It's strange, but the earlier two designs have 1975 and the later two designs have 1973!

As for Greetings, they all have 1975, except for the early orange label, which has 1973. It's a mess. I can't conclude any rule from these 1973/1975 imprints.

Anyway, I will soon create a "Holland LP variants: The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle" thread so that we catalog the different pressings.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:22 am
by volker
Typo in your first post:

(same sleeve a version 1) => (same sleeve as version 1)

Your version 1 copy really look like the labels are red.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:22 am
by eddy_wehbe
vzell wrote:Typo in your first post:

(same sleeve a version 1) => (same sleeve as version 1)

Your version 1 copy really look like the labels are red.
Typo corrected.

Those labels vary from orange to very dark orange, depending on the printing.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:49 am
by volker
There seem to be 2 more versions available see below listing:

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''Version 2a:'' - white round 57 sticker on rear sleeve and plain white inner sleeve
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Price code "57" sticker on rear sleeve
- No price code on sleeve
- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels
(same sleeve as version 1)

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https://www.discogs.com/Bruce-Springste ... se/8126726 and scan at Image

''Version 6:'' - distribution and price code printing in the upper right corner on sleeve
- Catalog number CBS S 65480
- Fold-out postcard sleeve
- Distribution code "CB 271" on sleeve
- Price code "57" on sleeve

- No label code on sleeve
- Sunburst labels
- No asterisk on labels
- Track list aligned to the left on labels

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:02 pm
by eddy_wehbe
Thank you Volker. I added those two versions. Let me know if I made any mistakes.

...now it's time to hunt down version 3 and version 4.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:27 am
by eddy_wehbe
I ordered another version with price sticker. I will post complete info when I receive it.

I guess it will be better not to list these (officially) snickered copies as separate versions, but as variants of certain versions. I will modify the first post and remove the other stickered version and list separately as a side note.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:27 pm
by cgfesp
HI EVERYONE
YES. IT EXISTS ONE HOLLAND VERSION OF "THE WILD,THE INNOCENT..." WITH ORANGE LABELS. I HAVE GOT A COPY.
THE CATALOGUE NUMBER IS "S 65780 (KC 32432)""AND THE LABEL IS SIMILAR TO THE "GREETINGS" ONE.

AT THE BOTTON OF THE BACK COVER IS WRITTEN "SHOREPAK BY SHOREWOOD PACKAGING/PRINTED IN HOLLAND.
ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER THE CBS LOGO IS INSIDE A RECTANGLE WITH THE CATALOGUE NUMER "65780" BELOW. OUT OF THE RECTANGLE, AT THE BOTTON, THERE IS A CODE: "B" INSIDE A CIRCLE.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:02 pm
by eddy_wehbe
cgfesp wrote:HI EVERYONE
YES. IT EXISTS ONE HOLLAND VERSION OF "THE WILD,THE INNOCENT..." WITH ORANGE LABELS. I HAVE GOT A COPY.
THE CATALOGUE NUMBER IS "S 65780 (KC 32432)""AND THE LABEL IS SIMILAR TO THE "GREETINGS" ONE.

AT THE BOTTON OF THE BACK COVER IS WRITTEN "SHOREPAK BY SHOREWOOD PACKAGING/PRINTED IN HOLLAND.
ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER THE CBS LOGO IS INSIDE A RECTANGLE WITH THE CATALOGUE NUMER "65780" BELOW. OUT OF THE RECTANGLE, AT THE BOTTON, THERE IS A CODE: "B" INSIDE A CIRCLE.
Interesting. Thanks for the info. Can you post the same info here: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/forum/ ... p?f=7&t=55
And if possible, please also post photos.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:41 pm
by cgfesp
eddy_wehbe wrote:I know that CBS records transitioned from the orange label to the sunburst label sometime in the mid-seventies, and then from the sunburst label to red label around mid-1985.

I think the transition from the orange label to the sunburst label did not happen everywhere at the same time... in Oceana, in Holland, in the UK...

1) Does anybody know exactly when the transition happened?
2) Does anybody know if "The Wild" (and maybe "Born To Run" too) was released in Holland on orange labels

As far as I know, these albums were issued on orange labels:

Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
- UK
- Holland
- Australia

The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
- UK
- Australia

Born To Run
- Australia
- New Zealand
- South Africa
There is a Israel variant with orange labels too.
But I don't know if Greetings and Wild were edited with this color of label.

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:25 pm
by eddy_wehbe
cgfesp wrote:There is a Israel variant with orange labels too.
But I don't know if Greetings and Wild were edited with this color of label.
You are right. I have photos of that issue on my computer. So here's an updated summary:

Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
- Australia
- UK
- Holland

The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
- Australia
- UK
- Holland

Born To Run
- Australia
- Israel
- New Zealand
- South Africa

Re: Holland LP variants: Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:47 pm
by eddy_wehbe
This week I received a copy of version 2 with distribution code and price code sticker. Main post updated.